INN OF LOST SOULS: general chit-chat thread

Post by **PaulH** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:47 am

Hehe, not had as much comp time lately, and not been too well, but will og in the chat soon! But still checking! I'm like a rockpile, I don't go away too easily...

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:01 am

lol, good to know - well, except for the 'not been too well' bit - get better soon!

Post by **Ameena** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:23 am

Og in the chat room, eh? So you've transmogrified into some kind of caveman-snail now?

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:49 pm

I noticed, that this forum is already 5 years old !
what was it`s story? I mean, I read quite from these locked forums, like Cows net 54 forums and unoficial DM BBS site, just to learn a history..
When will be the 5th anniversary?

Post by **Ameena** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:21 am

If it's already five years old, then the fifth anniversary has already passed...
I seem to recall the forum used to be a sort of bluey-purply colour, when I first joined (March '03)...I think there were a couple of DM forums and Cows or someone merged 'em together into one big uber combo-forum to just make it easier - I think the blue/purple one I mentioned was just an RTC forum.
Something like that anyway.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:21 am

The history:

Back before I joined a nice person called Daniel Durgen (of Moutain of A' kir dungeon fame, well no, he's more famous for the BBS and accompanying site actually) created a BBS for everyone to chat on. REgulars like Gambiut and cows (then drake) and alandale and zyx used to go there and chat, DMJava was conceived then disappeared the suddenly came out of nowhere again there, etc. Daniel drifted away but the BBS carried on until finally the webspace was closed down when the host was wiping out all it's forums ; (

By that time there were five other forums - Ian Clark had created a DM forum on ezboard that everyone went to, DMJava was released and had it's forums (which got busy as DM JAva got a slashdpot mention), GG had moved from DMute to starting RTC so there were those forums, and Christophe had added forums to his encyclopaedia, and at that time Paul S started doing CSBwin so he added metnion to all his stuff there. Cows also had a starting DM website, so attached a simple forum there too.

Anyway, then the ezboard webspace that hosted DMweb, DMJava and RTC started including pop ups and banner ads, so cows offered to create a joint webspace beyond the tiny forum he used to have - this one!

As I'd already grabbed all the BBS posts manually I stuck them on this forum. Alos, cows ones got archived too. I forget , I think I also then moved Ian's DMWeb pots here (it could have been Gambit) becuse of the pop ups and to have a central place. And then Gambit moved all of the RTC forums here in one move, inlcuding preserving dataestamps and log ins. He also then made it possible to have the DME posts moved here too (except for upload ones and the general) along with the log in details.

DM JAva forums have always been too big to move here like Gambit did to RTC (especially given the amount of dead posts there too) and I certainly wouldn't move them by hand again, I don't have that free time anymore!

So yes, that was how it all came to get squished together. So yeah, I found DMute and stuff then the BBS quite close to when it finally came to an end and soonish after Ian's DMWeb became the new place to be, but if you look back at the history before that there's quite alot done before, and especiqally some older BBS posts now lost before we realised the webspace was getting shrunk :(

Post by **Ameena** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:37 pm

Ahh it was the Ezboard one I was in, I think - I remember the thing about the pop-ups and we'd've had to pay money to stop 'em.
Well this forum is very cool anyway so yay gratz to all the people who made it

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Post by **Gambit37** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:26 pm

I believe I still have $20 sitting on the RTC ezboard forums that never got used!

And it was Christophe who did the hard work moving all the DME posts here, not me.

Other than that, pretty good summary Beo! How long do you think we will all continue to chat on here -- another 5 years?

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:32 pm

I hope it will be a lot longer than 5 years.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:41 pm

Here here - and remember, next year is the 20th anniversary of DM...still rumblings of meetings ....

Post by **Ameena** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:21 pm

A meeting of DM peeps would be really cool...trouble is, we're so spread over the world (mostly in Europe I believe but there's people like Cows and Soph who're in USA/Canada), it'd probably be hard to get all of us together. I very much doubt I'd be able to get to anything that wasn't in England somewhere

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Post by **Lunever** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:45 pm

As I said before: I think any choice other than London wouldn't make much sense imho.

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:52 pm

I think Lunever is right, London would be the best place. It's a fact that most of the users on this board are from the UK, and for everybody else, London is definitely the easiest accessible place in the UK. What about a weekend in the summer of 2007? The 20th anniversary of DM would be the best opportunity for such a meeting; too bad that the distance will probably prevent people from North America from coming.

Post by **Ameena** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:08 pm

Well I could certainly do London, just jump on the train

. I'd look forward to meeting you chaps whenever we plan it

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beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:14 pm

I'm now 35 mins from london so would selfishly vote london :)

Post by **Gambit37** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:28 pm

Oooh, I'll invite Doug, Andy & the boys too!

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:50 pm

There we go...get them drunk and steal the dm sourcecoe that doens't look like spagetti!

zoom · Post by **zoom** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:08 am

At who's place would you meet?

Post by **Ameena** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:02 am

Presumably we'd all meet up in a pub or something - that's what I've done for previous EQ-meets...and by "pub" I mean a place where people talk and drink and stuff, not some crappy joint with head-pounding "music" booming out so no-one can hear anyone else unless they're using a megaphone

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Unless of course anyone actually lives in London and we can all gatecrash their house or something

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Post by **Lunever** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:04 am

Well, there ARE Londoners here, even among the regulars. Yet living in London does not necessarily mean having enough space to host a bunch of forumers.

Post by **Ameena** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:13 am

Oh I didn't mean staying overnight or whatever lol - I just meant as an alternative to gathering in, say, a pub. We could all bring our own food and stuff

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Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:07 am

for the people, who rather won`t visit UK, you could arrange a special meeting with ex-FTL staff here on the flashchat. As they know about that site, so I don`t think that would be a big problem for them. It`s just a matter of turning on the computer for a while. What`s the official date, when first time Dungeon Master has been released?

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:39 am

If I recall correctly, Gambit mentioned several times that none of the ex-FTLers are really interested in DM anymore. We should respect that.

Should we indeed meet in London, I think we should take a whole weekend, not just one evening.

Daecon · Post by **Daecon** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:42 am

*sigh*

If only I still lived in London...

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:06 am

Trant: I though they`re lurking here sometimes.. but if they`re really not interested, I agree we shouldn`t bother them

Post by **Gambit37** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:44 am

Trantor wrote:If I recall correctly, Gambit mentioned several times that none of the ex-FTLers are really interested in DM anymore. We should respect that.

Ooooh, definitely not true!

Post by **Lunever** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:04 pm

Part of that meeting could be anyway to go to an internet caffee at an appointed time to say hello to anybody who's interested and just can't travel to London.

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:49 am

is there an english (or polish

) translation of that article somewhere:

http://dmweb.free.fr/Images/FTLGames/TI ... erview.jpg

?

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:52 pm

OMG, I just found Gambit and Zyx`s wishlist about Dmute from 2000! It`s a thrue history !!!

COMMENTS
>1) Better memory management...
up to George

>2) A true copy and paste...
not easy: If you don't want to clone the tile, you have to create every
single object and creature contained in the tile with the same set of relations!

>3) Massive improvements to the interface...
Up to George and Gambit

>4) True compatibility between all versions of DM...
Up to George

>5) A built in text editor...
I think it's very complex, but I'll be willing to help investigating.

>6) Correct graphics for editing CSB save games...
Up to George and Gambit

>7) Correct names for all objects.
We have all the lists.

MY WISHLIST
13) The list of all the objects already created in the dungeon, with their
hexadecimal ID, their coordonates and wether they're chested or not.
This way we could manage much more efficiently the limited
number of objects, by referring to the same ID when we want
to clone an object like a wall inscription for example.
We could also detect if we have unused objects. And we could know how much
place is left yet.

14) An option to see the binary values instead of the hexadecimal ones.

15) For each level, the number of monsters allowed should be shown

16) Complete list of the triggering objects.

17) Complete list of the different tiles (pits and teleporters, doors stuck partially open, false walls)

1 Check box to make monster generators always work.

19) Bashable and spell sensitive doors.

PRESSURE PADS

20) Possibility to edit a pressure pad even when the tile is not a simple
floor.

21) The direction-specific effect for pressure pads

22) Pressure pads activated by the party+object.

23) The possibility to make heard message.

24) Duration ranges from 0 to 7 for pressure pads, not 0 to 6.

25) A check box for each function instead of "toggle 1" and "toggle 2".
For example: activate/disactivate, normal/toggle, step in/step out, no limit/once.

26) If you activate a wall object you must precise the direction
0, 10,20 or 30. It should be done automaticly.

WALL OBJECTS
27) Better interface for wall objects with the possibility, with a simple
optionbox, to create a swith on/switch out.
It's always the same procedure, so it could be automatized.

2 With this same interface, another option for object morphing.

29) The alcoves with the "needs constant weight" effects.

30) Wall objects with counters (interact once, twice, etc.)

31) A checkbox to add or not a click sound.

31) Wall objects from where you can retrieve an object.

32) A check box: Keyholes that don't eat the keys

33) The possibility to create spells vents, weapons vents and vents throwing
the objects we put inside. With the possibility to choose the kind of spell
or weapon, the power, if it's a single shot or a double,

I can provide the information for all the points I mentionned.
Zyx

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:17 pm

Hmm, really should have spenked adamo's quote into a link...eh, can't be bothered now

Why did I come here - oh yeah, to go HAH IN YOUR FACE SPAMMERS!

Oh, my name's ken makenson and i'm here for dm. No you aren't, you are ken maken-stuff-up and here to flog your cheap pills - HAH! TWATTED!

*cough*

that is all, i am now going back to eating my pasta