unusual chess games

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:20 am

are you bored with traditional chess? take a look at THAT:
http://www.omegachess.com/home.html
10x10 board!

Post by **Lunever** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:07 am

Dunno, reminds me a bit on Janus chess, from which I quickly got bored.

Aside from that the descriptive text sounds pretty much like some commercialized ad from a game company that has run out of real ideas.

I also think that no one will be able to actually improve chess within the next 2 millenia.

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:32 pm

I also think that no one will be able to actually improve chess within the next 2 millenia (...) run out of real ideas.

why not? there are actually dozens of versions of this game, this one just seems to be yet more complicated. In every version it`s all about the logical thinking, predicting opponent moves and strategy.
This one just gives you more possibilities. 100 tiles instead of 64.
I hope I could play it online one day!
Run out of real ideas? but improving chess gameplay is the idea! if you`re bored with traditional chess, you play it; if not, you don`t- simple.

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:44 pm

there are also hex chess for 3/6 (!) players:
http://www.chessvariants.org/hexagonal.dir/echexs.html
and chess for 4 players (rules are identical, you can play online!

<Edit: oh no, the online version has stupid rules!!!

> ):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-handed_chess

Post by **Lunever** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:46 am

Well, certainly it is larger in terms of two-dimensional space. But if you speak of possibilities, traditional chess already has a number of possibilities, that is in theory limited, but is so vast, that from the perspective of a human it is infinite. So you add something to something virtually infinite. Makes something still virtually infinite, I really don't see the point in that.
I can't get bored with traditional chess since I can never really grasp it. How many moves can you calculate in advance? Answer is "never enough".

zoom · Post by **zoom** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:15 pm

I never grasped Chess , too.
I happened to play against my nephew , 6 years old,
he re-explained a bit of the rules for me, and I managed
to lose twice and win once because he made a
major mistake!
It can be fun, you only have to find the right opponent

that was traditional chess, btw.

once in england, I saw a Lord of the Rings Chess Game.
Looked cool. I don^t remember the price, though.

Post by **Lunever** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:21 pm

Well, what you did actually isn't really chess playing. You just played a casual board game by moving pieces according to a bunch of rules. Real chess playing starts, where you cease to just think in terms of tactically counting pieces killed, but calculate moves in advance along lines of possibilities that make sense, re-analyse the entire situation on the board, weighing not only pieces vs. each other, but also positions and other factors, and based on your analysis of the current situation on the board develop a longer term strategy.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:45 pm

I guess at that level even analysing your opponent helps - are they a gambler or not, offensive player or defensive, do they seem to be playing a long term game from the start or reacting in a more immediate fashion to the board

zoom · Post by **zoom** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:14 pm

Well, you are probably right, lunever!
and Beo, too

THe little man had really some kind of tactic
going on, nevertheless, copied from his father.

for me , I hardly think above 2 steps in advance.

I guess it only starts to sink in once you play
daily. but when does real chess play occur? If you
get explanations from better people? Do you have
to get it on your own? Is it in the genes/brain?

If you look at it, chess tends to be boring
and interesting as well!!

Post by **Lunever** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:41 pm

Well, if you never get into that out-thinking your opponent level, chess may indeed become boring. But if you get into that, it instead becomes addictive.

For me, when I was a youth, a math teacher of me made me interested by offering a basic chess course. Then I read a couple of books about chess strategy and joined a local chess club, and I really liked it. I occassionally fought in tournaments, but I ceased playing when I got to a point where continuing to develop my skill would have been hard training instead of entertainment. Well, and exactly in that time I started to invest every available time in role-playing games. I haven't played much in the recent years then since other things kept me busy. But I still like chess very much and enjoy the occasions when I do play a game of chess once more.

Post by **Sophia** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:45 pm

Hmm, for moving pieces around and out-thinking I prefer Space Hulk.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:53 pm

Yeah, something satisfying about needing both tactis and also to kill your opponents pieces with purifying flame!

Heh, if only someone could have created a net version of that to allow us to play in these modern times.

I don't think such a heroine exists though

That now reminds me of battlechess, where I would deliberately set up chess pieces just to watch the deaths!

Post by **Ameena** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:23 pm

Ahh I remember Battlechess - we had it on the Atari...I liked the different take-moves as well...stuff like Castle-takes-Queen...and I seem to recall most of the Pawn-takes-Whatever as being quite cool too...

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:56 pm

Yeah, the pawn deaths were cooler because of the associated rarity of them

And didn't the castle do some fun stuff - like swallow the queen and bash the knight into his boots?

Knight taking knight was the best - completle monty python homage

Post by **Ameena** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:58 pm

Oh yeah, that was great. And yes, in Castle-takes-Queen he picked her up (she squealed briefly), turned her upside-down, and swallowed her whole.
Castle-takes-King was quite a good one too - he'd bash him on the head, then pick him up and drop him and he'd float to the ground like a feather or sheet of paper.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:05 pm

was it the pawn takes knight where the knight gets kicked in the crotch?

Post by **Ameena** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:38 pm

Hmm I can't remember...didn't the Pawn somehow distract the Knight and then jab him in the goolies with his spear thingy? I don't think Pawns' little stubby feet can reach high enough to kick him, that's all...
I know in Pawn-takes-Pawn, the taker stumped the other one on the foot with the base of his spear, then rammed him in the head with it when he bent down.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:43 pm

Heh, i downloade it for PC! Though the graphics aren't as good as the amiga/atari

Will play with it more another time, but the pawn takes king has him nabbling the crown, and the knight takes king has the knight cutting open the king's robe!

Post by **Ameena** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:58 pm

I can remember Castle-takes-King (King gets flattened) and Bishop-takes-King (twirls round really fast with his knife-on-a-stick and slices him into thirds which then fall apart)...can't quite remember Queen-takes-King but I can remember King-takes-Queen (she opens her arms and gives him a hug, then pulls out a dagger behind his back but he catches her, pushes her away, then conks her on the head with his sceptre and she falls down).

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:50 am

queen just uses her magic - funnier if he was a frog afterwards!

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:00 pm

I wanted to buy Omega chess just because it has expanded board (10x10 tiles).

I think the additional 4 tiles are not a good idea. and, therefore, second figure (wizard). 10x10 and one additional figure is enough.
I would also play EXACTLY THE SAME rules as in normal chess.

Here`s how it shoold look like:

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K-KING     k- king
Q-QUEEN    q- queen
B-BISHOP   b- bishop
N-KNIGHT   n- knight
R-ROOK     r- rook
C-CHAMPION c- champion
P-PAWN     p- pawn

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:16 pm

What is the move of the champion?

Adamo · Post by **Adamo** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:22 pm

The Champion, like the Knight, is classified as a leaper. It can move one square orthogonally, forward, backward or to either side. Or the Champion can jump two squares forward or backward or to either side, or jump two squares diagonally in all four directions. The Champion can jump over pieces and it can control up to twelve squares. (See diagram).The Champion cannot move one square diagonally.

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