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Only one RPG game beats DM from back in the day

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:33 pm
by violetriga
Only one RPG game beats DM from back in the day, and it's represented in my avatar (anyone guess?). No, it wasn't as revolutionary and was not as popular, but for me it's simply the best fantasy game of the era.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:26 pm
by linflas

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:35 pm
by Gambit37
I edited this but hotlinks still don't work -- can you post a link to the page instead?

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:41 pm
by Gambit37
Hi VioletRiga.

The URL of your avatar gives it away -- it's Phantasie-III -- I've never heard of it but it looks interesting.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:06 pm
by Trantor
I have heard a lot of that game, but never played it myself. A friend of mine did, however, and he has very fond memories of it.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:16 pm
by linflas
erm... sorry for the links !
http://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-st/ ... creenshots
of course i found the name the same way you did Gambit :)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:31 pm
by violetriga
I knew people would cheat if I didn't obfuscate the image name, but I'm surprised by people not knowing the game that well. Actually, I don't think I've met many people that know the game, so it's not that much of a surprise.

Phantasie III is a little Ultima-y, but far superior for me. Perhaps it's simply because it's the one that captured my imagination many years ago, but the plot, the gameplay and everything about the game just oozes class. It's available on STeem - give it a go!

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:07 pm
by Walter Mitty
I remember reading about Phantasie III in Dragon Magazine when it came out. I think the whole series was available on Apple II.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:53 pm
by rob3034
anyone know here i can download this game (phantasie 3?) for the ST ie as a disk image? :wink:

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:09 pm
by rob3034
what platform was the game under? ST or C64, or pc?

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:27 pm
by violetriga
rob3034 wrote:what platform was the game under? ST or C64, or pc?
Yes.
(all three)

The best version to my mind is on the ST

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:43 pm
by rob3034
yeah i thought it would be!! :D , ST was the best machine for most games of the time. any ideas where i could get it from vio?

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:21 am
by beowuuf
i already said the underdogs where you asked this same question in another thread

also, look for st disk images - there should be sites around surely?

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:11 pm
by rob3034
yeah, sorry i posted it in the wrong thread :oops:

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:34 am
by mikko
Hey Phantasie III was cool.. I came, I saw and I won! :twisted: And of course the Amiga version was the best.. :wink:

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:59 pm
by cowsmanaut
The Amiga version of every game was always the best.. stereo sound, 4096 colours on screen at once.. though there was only one game I ever saw released in ham mode :P

Oh.. and saying any game is better than DM in it's own era.. is SACRALIGE!! off with his head... both of them.!!

:shock:

I can do that right?

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:46 pm
by Gambit37
Yeah!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:38 pm
by beowuuf
Well, you own the fourm, and more importantly have the moral high ground

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:45 pm
by Tom Hatfield
You mean, Sacrilege? But I agree. Let me get the vorax. . . .

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:20 pm
by TAJERTAM
The only game that i can think of that came near Dungeon Master back when i was a lad was Bloodwych. Both these games kept me engrossed for months on my Atar Ste, dungeon master had better graphics and as it was like the first ever it was amazing.(god i feel old now cos i played em twnety years ago, och well forty aint to old) ;)

http://www.classicgaming.com/bloodwych/

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:21 pm
by Nightwolf
Bloodwych was so good, because two player mode. I dont know how many ours playing with my old good pal... :)

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:20 pm
by cowsmanaut
I don't think anything was better than DM personally.. but I think EOB2 was pretty good.. I think the stronger story element, greater variation in graphics, and the ability to lose and gain comrads was cool.. and the curse actually meant something ;)

But for me the only thing that ruined my experiences there was the feel of the action.. I didn't feel as skilled doing a spell because you just select it from a list.. and I didn't gain levels like I got in DM.. I think the DM system was the best thing going for it.. it really felt like growth of character..

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:11 pm
by Chaos-Shaman
the amiga got me going on dungeon master in 89, i loved it so much, it blew away my apple computer at the time. i think out of all the things in dungeon master that i found the spell casting and level gaining the best.
i spent a day finding all the spells while killing screamers, and that was not my kids either :shock: , as they had thier own screaming at the time, it was then while bbsing that i chose the name chaos as my alias and has stayed ever since. there is another game i found cool but never finished it, Abandoned Places. i love rpgs

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:08 pm
by ParuNexus
yeah i am a big phantasie fan, amiga had the best ports for it
but i tinhk only the atari had all 3 games., the towns i liked very simple interface, equipment, learning, banking etc were all very simple. one thing barrowed from DM that was cool that i hope is seen in more games ins body parts hurt or lost. ok DM you didn't lose body parts. Each Phantasie game may start out pretty simple and what looks like small game but it keeps on going and going. it's not all that Ultimaish i mean it has elements but even the towns in ultima 1 was slightly more advanced.
you atleast had to move around to the right place, could steel and talk to others. Also i don't recall Phantasie involving much of the npc's like Ultima.
But as said earlier that simple town left mroe world and secrets to explore.

no it's not better to me either but is one of my "2ndary favorites"
things like Dungeon Master, Ultima and say Legacy of Kain are among my "1st main" favorites, then things like EoB, phantasie, Darklands(Germanic dark ages) would be like 2nd favorite.

as for getting it, i can find a copy of any version i think, i have a good account on underground-gamer which deals with "retro" games\systems and what not. honestly part of UG is a "favorite games\sysmtes" wiki and i've added some of those entry's or also added my name to the list.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:01 am
by somemale
Is dungeon master considered an RPG??

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:11 am
by beowuuf
Certainly based on RPG concepts and mechanics

You are playing the role of Theron (or can pretend you are the champions)