[RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

[Gambit37]

@Money: Yes, that's right, save games are not forwards compatible. You'll have to start over

[alfonzo glecko]

I started over. I found it. I am playing 3.1. What has happened to the download link?

[beowuuf]

Adamski removes the links when there is an issue with the game, just so new people don't hit the issues current players do. He's not released the new version yet - patience until Sunday

[PaulH]

I have completed some of the other secret areas - but what is the big circle puzzle?

Also need to know:

- On the clock level, how do I open the door with the tech eye that says 'what is there'?
- In the basement near the end, another tech says 'you can't pass'?
- The door to the beholders?

[alfonzo glecko]

it is sunday sir. .. please sir.. kind sir .. my fix please sir.. I have waited patiently for this day to finally arrive , sir .. Just kidding. I really hope we can use our old saves. Can someone help me to get my saves into the rtc txt format so I can use the editor to look at the maps. I am not sure if I would be able to figure out this game without it. At least in the next ten years. I am stuck at every guild, every area. I can't figure out the mage guild. I am stuck at the wind and the eye in the darkness doors. Help. I did get through the warrior guild. WATER!! Yes WATER!! Stuck in the sewer. stuck in the thief guild, the priest guild, etc. etc. I guess I am requesting help with the mage guild to get past the eye. Thanks. Did I mention that it is SUNDAY???

[Gambit37]

Adamski said NEXT SUNDAY, that means next week, the 17th.

Unfortunately, no-one can help you get your saves into a TXT format -- they are encrypted and only George Gilbert, creator of RTC, would be able to help you (well, unless someone wants to have a go at reverse engineering!)

The eye in the darkness corridor is asking for a very obvious solution. It's the first spell you learn in original Dungeon Master. Perhaps you haven't found the spell book or necessary runes yet?

[stewy]

Any hints on where the ruby key is found, and is there any purpose to the tec eyes, and I finaly got a little screamer in the box, got hin over to the special pad and nothing really happened but the pit closing, I am compleatly stuck on the mage level, about to give up. I have tryed every thing. I have 3 of 4 clan peaces. I blew up the boiler put barrols in front to keep the golems in, Killed the rest but now am at a loss what to do. any sugestions will be greatly appreceated. thanks

[Adamski]

stewy, the bad news is that you can't complete this guild because there is a wall which obstructs the passage to the room with the ruby key. In my last version I have removed this wall, but I am afraid of other unwanted walls so I prefer checking all the maps. I said "next sunday" for the release, that is today (Gambit there was a misunderstanding ). Unluckily I was busy so the release will be next week (from 11 to 17 January) with a BIG surprise. Send me your savegames by email (ask me in pm for my email) and I'll check them with the new version (I noticed that sometimes a savegame works with a new version, rarely with the changes in the map).

Paul:
clock level:

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you should be as curious as this eye: this is the big circle riddle

you can't pass:

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that eye is a guardian (I can't say more)

beholder:

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it can be opened from another side, but...

[PaulH]

I am curious, but I am no closer to knowing what to do lol

Also vigor door? Vi gor spell cannot be cast unless I need some objext it transforms for it to do so.

[Adamski]

Paul I know, but also your party must be curious (it is a clue )
vigor: easier than it seems

[PaulH]

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I put the four leaf clover to the eye, and it flashed. The curious hint though isn't ringing any bells with me lol. I have managed to enter the beholder lair and killed them, but vigor still confuses me (as does the none shall pass' area)!

[beowuuf]

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Does vigor refer to strength perhaps?

[Adamski]

Paul: what do you do when you want to

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know what there is behind a wall?

(in DM not in real life)
beowuuf:

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it's the apparent meaning, in fact it's a simple way to ask for two things

[PaulH]

Knock on it?

Apparent to you, obviously not to us!

[PaulH]

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Ok, got the two runes and opened the door, and killed the dragon. I also got past the eye that is a guardian by teleporting from infront of the door to the safe place, teleporting back to the door, steeping back and opening the door, then reteleprting - it bypassed the close mechanism. I entered the field after killing the golems, and it said I had solved the riddle and got the firestaff, but the staff was still behind the field.

[alfonzo glecko]

I am still trying to find the ful rune. just a small hint to get past my mental impasse or missed trigger, or unsolved riddle, etc. I am trying ti figure out what the trigger near the stairwell going into the passage in the graveyard does. This is the spiders den. There is a pit in the center of the room under a trapdoor. I moved the tree creature onto it and hit the trigger several times... nothing. Trying ti figure out the significance of the items in the room.

[beowuuf]

That room becomes clearer when you solve a different area and open the door from the other side.

[alfonzo glecko]

i have the rain staff. I walked the mummy into the rebirth alcove thinking that was the riddle. wrong . Nothing. What is the mummy for. who is it? is he important? Help please.

[alfonzo glecko]

what are the jars with the non material creatures for?. Do I break them somewhere special?

[money]

what jars?

[beowuuf]

There are lots of jars around in the various tombs, if you smash them open you can get items, ashes, or spirits. I think the spirits are the penalty for smashing the wrong jar, but I'm not certain.

The mummy, I believe, needs to be lead to the middle of a specific tomb - the priest's tomb. Though sadly haven't got that far, so again can't be certain!

[money]

Thats correct - not easy to do, but there are ways to help guide him!

[Adamski]

You must

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lead a dead to a specific place, but he isn't the mummy

[alfonzo glecko]

How important is the mummy? should I spend so much time trying to figure out what to do with him. He has gotten loose on the weather area. Is this important?

[alfonzo glecko]

whats going on? To quote Roger Waters " Is there anybody in there?"

[money]

Alfonzo, the mummy is not important! When you find the

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right bones to use in the re-birth alcove

, this will make a little more sense. Read the scrolls in the priests tomb - that should help solve this riddle.

[Trantor]

whats going on? To quote Roger Waters " Is there anybody in there?"

Just nod if you can here me. Is there anyone at home?

(Best guitar solo ever. Especially the Pulse version. David Gilmour is god.)

[Gambit37]

David Gilmour is god.

I don't believe in God. But I do believe Gilmour is the Supreme Guitarist of All Time and Space. Now, this leaves me slightly confused.

[money]

lol - wonder how many of us on this board are pink floyd fans - bet it's quite high... does that say something about the average DM fan?

[alfonzo glecko]

It says more about the not so average Floyd fan. My bet is also lots of musicians. And I agree that Gilmour's extraordinary contributions turned these songs...... excuse me ... These Pieces into eternal reverential anthems! Is that a little over the top? I think not! Hail! and I'm still unable to find the ful rune.