level 5 switches

cagney · Post by **cagney** » Tue May 24, 2005 1:26 pm

i am in a room with 4 switches can anyone give me the correct order so i can get the other key.

any help would be appreciated

ManFromAnotherPlace · Post by **ManFromAnotherPlace** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:42 pm

Hi and welcome

I guess you are referring to the room of King Filius with the little, hidden switches? As far as i recall I had no real problem opening the movable wall to get the iron key. Did you push all four buttons?

Post by **Ameena** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:51 pm

If that is indeed where you're stuck, if I remember rightly I just get it these days by running round pressing them all in random order till the wall opens

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beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:57 pm

If you imagine each one like a toggle switch, even though there is no visible indication of it. There are only two buttons you need to press - I beleive the two on the right of the room. Just keep pressing them, keeping in mind the toggling effect - there are only 16 combinations to try, as long as you keep track of which button you have pressed

Diriyando · Post by **Diriyando** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:37 pm

You have to try the combinations, but in my games one of the combinations 1-2-3-4. 1-3-2-4. 1,-4-2-3. 1-2-4-3, 1-3-4-2 or 1-4-3-2 was correct (1 is the fist switch on the left side when you enter the room, 4 the last one on the right side)

nikki sixx 215 · Post by **nikki sixx 215** » Wed May 25, 2005 12:59 am

even now I just press them all untill the wall opens, I aways found the room next door more of a challange, that took me a while to get... well I was only 10 years old to be fair...

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed May 25, 2005 8:35 pm

Foud it, it is the left most two buttons as you enter the room (one at the back of the left corner, and one on the right hand side of the back wall, the left one of two in a recess
Press them once each and the wall opens without you haveing to press millions of buttons a million times : )

Post by **Paul Stevens** » Wed May 25, 2005 9:01 pm

press millions of buttons a million times

That seems a bit excessive. After eleven random
presses you have 51 percent chance of opening the wall.
After 22 presses a 75 perent chance. After 33 presses
an 87 percent chance. After 44, 93 percent. After 100
presses a 99.9984 percent chance. My pocket calculator
won't do a million without a bit of mental legerdemain.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed May 25, 2005 9:24 pm

LOL! Show off...
And really, 16 combinations of presses of a non random nature will guarantee 100% success in the end : )

Post by **Paul Stevens** » Wed May 25, 2005 9:58 pm

16 combinations of presses of a non random nature will guarantee 100% success

The same pocket calculator says that 15 individual (not
combinations) presses will always suffice.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed May 25, 2005 10:16 pm

The basis of Gray code, of course...only have one change to each new state : )

Simon · Post by **Simon** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:07 pm

I never understood that room. It speaks of combinations, but just hit the switches once each in any order and it does the trick, not really a challenge or a combination problem..

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:33 pm

t is combinations, you have to have the and/or gate targetted by the four switches in a certain state, each switch toggles the state, and you have to have all four switches making the and/or gate 'on' - that 'once eahc in any order' isn't right, that doens't free the room - i think you must do it left to right and solve it without realising ....