Only one RPG game beats DM from back in the day

violetriga · Post by **violetriga** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:33 pm

Only one RPG game beats DM from back in the day, and it's represented in my avatar (anyone guess?). No, it wasn't as revolutionary and was not as popular, but for me it's simply the best fantasy game of the era.

Post by **linflas** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:26 pm

never played it, but it looks very "ultima" !
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/o ... 663-00.gif
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/o ... 997-00.gif
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/o ... 180-00.gif

Post by **Gambit37** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:35 pm

I edited this but hotlinks still don't work -- can you post a link to the page instead?

Post by **Gambit37** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:41 pm

Hi VioletRiga.

The URL of your avatar gives it away -- it's Phantasie-III -- I've never heard of it but it looks interesting.

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:06 pm

I have heard a lot of that game, but never played it myself. A friend of mine did, however, and he has very fond memories of it.

Post by **linflas** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:16 pm

erm... sorry for the links !
http://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-st/ ... creenshots
of course i found the name the same way you did Gambit

violetriga · Post by **violetriga** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:31 pm

I knew people would cheat if I didn't obfuscate the image name, but I'm surprised by people not knowing the game that well. Actually, I don't think I've met many people that know the game, so it's not that much of a surprise.

Phantasie III is a little Ultima-y, but far superior for me. Perhaps it's simply because it's the one that captured my imagination many years ago, but the plot, the gameplay and everything about the game just oozes class. It's available on STeem - give it a go!

Walter Mitty · Post by **Walter Mitty** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:07 pm

I remember reading about Phantasie III in Dragon Magazine when it came out. I think the whole series was available on Apple II.

rob3034 · Post by **rob3034** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:53 pm

anyone know here i can download this game (phantasie 3?) for the ST ie as a disk image?

rob3034 · Post by **rob3034** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:09 pm

what platform was the game under? ST or C64, or pc?

violetriga · Post by **violetriga** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:27 pm

rob3034 wrote:what platform was the game under? ST or C64, or pc?

Yes.
(all three)

The best version to my mind is on the ST

rob3034 · Post by **rob3034** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:43 pm

yeah i thought it would be!!

, ST was the best machine for most games of the time. any ideas where i could get it from vio?

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:21 am

i already said the underdogs where you asked this same question in another thread

also, look for st disk images - there should be sites around surely?

rob3034 · Post by **rob3034** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:11 pm

yeah, sorry i posted it in the wrong thread

mikko · Post by **mikko** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:34 am

Hey Phantasie III was cool.. I came, I saw and I won!

And of course the Amiga version was the best..

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:59 pm

The Amiga version of every game was always the best.. stereo sound, 4096 colours on screen at once.. though there was only one game I ever saw released in ham mode

Oh.. and saying any game is better than DM in it's own era.. is SACRALIGE!! off with his head... both of them.!!

I can do that right?

Post by **Gambit37** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:46 pm

Yeah!!!!!!

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:38 pm

Well, you own the fourm, and more importantly have the moral high ground

Tom Hatfield · Post by **Tom Hatfield** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:45 pm

You mean, Sacrilege? But I agree. Let me get the vorax. . . .

TAJERTAM · Post by **TAJERTAM** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:20 pm

The only game that i can think of that came near Dungeon Master back when i was a lad was Bloodwych. Both these games kept me engrossed for months on my Atar Ste, dungeon master had better graphics and as it was like the first ever it was amazing.(god i feel old now cos i played em twnety years ago, och well forty aint to old)

http://www.classicgaming.com/bloodwych/

Nightwolf · Post by **Nightwolf** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:21 pm

Bloodwych was so good, because two player mode. I dont know how many ours playing with my old good pal...

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:20 pm

I don't think anything was better than DM personally.. but I think EOB2 was pretty good.. I think the stronger story element, greater variation in graphics, and the ability to lose and gain comrads was cool.. and the curse actually meant something

But for me the only thing that ruined my experiences there was the feel of the action.. I didn't feel as skilled doing a spell because you just select it from a list.. and I didn't gain levels like I got in DM.. I think the DM system was the best thing going for it.. it really felt like growth of character..

Chaos-Shaman · Post by **Chaos-Shaman** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:11 pm

the amiga got me going on dungeon master in 89, i loved it so much, it blew away my apple computer at the time. i think out of all the things in dungeon master that i found the spell casting and level gaining the best.
i spent a day finding all the spells while killing screamers, and that was not my kids either

, as they had thier own screaming at the time, it was then while bbsing that i chose the name chaos as my alias and has stayed ever since. there is another game i found cool but never finished it, Abandoned Places. i love rpgs

ParuNexus · Post by **ParuNexus** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:08 pm

yeah i am a big phantasie fan, amiga had the best ports for it
but i tinhk only the atari had all 3 games., the towns i liked very simple interface, equipment, learning, banking etc were all very simple. one thing barrowed from DM that was cool that i hope is seen in more games ins body parts hurt or lost. ok DM you didn't lose body parts. Each Phantasie game may start out pretty simple and what looks like small game but it keeps on going and going. it's not all that Ultimaish i mean it has elements but even the towns in ultima 1 was slightly more advanced.
you atleast had to move around to the right place, could steel and talk to others. Also i don't recall Phantasie involving much of the npc's like Ultima.
But as said earlier that simple town left mroe world and secrets to explore.

no it's not better to me either but is one of my "2ndary favorites"
things like Dungeon Master, Ultima and say Legacy of Kain are among my "1st main" favorites, then things like EoB, phantasie, Darklands(Germanic dark ages) would be like 2nd favorite.

as for getting it, i can find a copy of any version i think, i have a good account on underground-gamer which deals with "retro" games\systems and what not. honestly part of UG is a "favorite games\sysmtes" wiki and i've added some of those entry's or also added my name to the list.

somemale · Post by **somemale** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:01 am

Is dungeon master considered an RPG??

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:11 am

Certainly based on RPG concepts and mechanics

You are playing the role of Theron (or can pretend you are the champions)