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Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:09 pm

hehe, sub-tiles! That's only because Cowsmo put monsters in DM style groups of 4, there is no internal concept of subtiles, just the map grid (which is the size of one person).

The pit and other large things are just multi-tile objects (and act as one object in the engine, so it's not a nightmare to manipulate them).

My original goal was just a multiplayer Ultima 5/6 style game, but Cowsmo had the recent idea of putting DM stuff into it and that really got the ideas flowing!

Sabreman · Post by **Sabreman** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:30 pm

ian_scho wrote:Another Noooo Waaaay.
If it's been released on the PC (I had an 086 chip, wow), Legend of Fargoal was the other name I couldnt put my finger on. Played it for a while, that one.... But strangely cant find it on the net. Must have had a similar sounding name, and it was aaages ago.

http://www.fargoal.com/

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:38 pm

I think the game you are looking for is called Legend of Faerghail (though I never played that).

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:21 pm

Enemies don't group currently, that was us just forcing them into groups

right now the attack as singles and yes, each logged in player controls a single person. movement is as Gambit suggests, subtile. Just really a few things that made sense based on the style of engine which incidentally was based on Ultima. So using it for DM is quite an interesting twist and I'm glad people are interested

We hope to have something to test soon, but there is still quite a bit of work ahead. As well as some unique issues to get around based on the angle of view. You can only see things on one side of the wall.. This means changing layout of maps, or adopting something where we can turn the world 90 degrees to see other side of walls.. who knows... we shall see.

Post by **Gambit37** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:57 pm

cowsmanaut wrote:As well as some unique issues to get around based on the angle of view. You can only see things on one side of the wall..

Yes, I was wondering about that exact issue too!

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:05 pm

Gabit, ryan and cows (and alot of tohers) are in flashchat just now if you wanna ask any questiosn or make a request for the next thing they shoudl work on!

Post by **Gambit37** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:27 pm

I'm eating and being creative, no time for love, Dr. Jones!

ian_scho · Post by **ian_scho** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:57 pm

"Legend of Faerghail" That's it! Trantor wins a beer!

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:00 pm

Thanks, but I don't drink any alcohol! But if you have a spare Cherry Coke...

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:07 am

IT'S MINE!

And lol gambit, gotta respect the well placed Indy quote

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:36 am

Moveable walls more or less working with wall switches. I also layed out all of the walls for level 3 which might not sound like much work but it took a few hours to lay them all since 1 DM tile is actually 4 subtiles I need to lay seperately. So about 4 times the work with foors added on top of that as they needs to be put on as well.

So, a fully explorable level is there.. just need to get plates and doors and switches.. and teleporters all linked and in place.. then the level will work

choose your fate..

Post by **Gambit37** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:46 am

I'm strangely excited about this!

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:51 pm

It's strange you are excitied, or do you mean its manefesting in weird ways?

Tom Hatfield · Post by **Tom Hatfield** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:36 pm

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:06 pm

I mean like he lifts one hand sideways at the prospect!

I'm surrounded by people who take me wrong all day

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:25 am

We implemented limited visibility in the display so that you can't see areas you can't walk to, thus making secret rooms actually a secret (before you'd see them behind the wall, ugh!).

The problem is still that you can only see one side of the wall. There's no way to rotate the view, and the only good way of doing that is to switch to 3d tiles for the graphics. Everything would look the same, but we'd have 3D rotation and possibly lighting.

But.. not many people can do 3D models! It's all Cowsmo's fault. With ultima there was no need for 3D

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:34 am

whne will there be a server free to do a test of the engine then?

*not tonight, as I am already an hour past being too tired to be up!*

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:03 pm

How about Saturday evening? (so tomorrow morning for me, tomorrow evening for you guys). I think we can even get Cowsmo there too.

I'll try to be in the chat tomorrow morning so that anyone interested can hookup.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:27 pm

Sounds lik ea plan - someone wants to do cinema stuff here, but luckily they are a crazy early owl for it, so should be free by 7.30 - 8pm GMT!

Post by **Gambit37** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:29 pm

Count me out -- I'm out for a Birthday drink up so will be worse for wear by 8pm already....

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:56 pm

hello?

Post by **Sophia** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:00 pm

Come into Flashchat

Post by **Gambit37** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:32 pm

So was there a demo last night? If so, how did it go?

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:38 pm

Demo was cool, Sophia was a fast moving screamer slice, i built snowmen, and people have fun being in other people's backpacks

It's definitely a great engine to play a DM like game under, you should check it out sometime and give your feedback

Post by **Gambit37** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:17 pm

What?? Snowmen? Inside backpacks? Sounds like you were smoking something a little too strong!

Post by **Ameena** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:08 pm

Rofl cool, it sounds fun. Err...so we have to meet in Flashchat when there's a demo? Bugger, that's an arse, being how Flashchat doesn't like me atm and makes my comp go all weird so I have to restart. No idea why - it's just been doing it the past few times I've tried entering.
Bah

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beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:53 pm

No, the programme runs independantly of flashhcat and you can chat in it, it was just easier to co-ordinate the running and set up to have that second means

If you just PM when you see Ryan around or soemthing he can maybe set it up outwith fhashchat for you, ror through msn

Post by **Ameena** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:29 pm

Oh, Ryan's in charge of it? I thought it was Cows...

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:54 pm

I think it is a joint project, but I think it's ryan's engine and cows graphics...either could correct me if I am wrong...

ian_scho · Post by **ian_scho** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:15 am

Does this project have a name?

Welcome to the world of 'Mooryan'.
Enter the Dungeon of 'Rynudder'.
Beware of the dangers of 'Cowryan'...

I blame my lack of sleep for this post. Apologies.

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